Comments on: Email Marketing: When Do You Agree To Join A List http://askcharlyleetham.com/services/email-marketing-when-do-you-agree-to-join-a-list/login Online Business Implementation Expert - Helping Businesses Harness The Internet As A Channel To Market Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Robert Shackleton http://askcharlyleetham.com/services/email-marketing-when-do-you-agree-to-join-a-list/login/comment-page-1#comment-2249 Robert Shackleton Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:48:34 +0000 http://askcharlyleetham.com/blog/?p=637#comment-2249 Hey charly, A masterful clarification. I was pointing out to someone recently the danger in taking a cavlier attitude to including contacts in an email list. You have clarified the issue graphically. No permission means "no". I am so glad to know this before I ran out "with hobnail boots" into the privacy of others. In my exuberant ignorance I could easily have "dirtied up" my relationships. No need to convince anyone, I'll just send them to your post. Many thanks, Robert Hey charly,
A masterful clarification. I was pointing out to someone recently the danger in taking a cavlier attitude to including contacts in an email list. You have clarified the issue graphically. No permission means “no”. I am so glad to know this before I ran out “with hobnail boots” into the privacy of others. In my exuberant ignorance I could easily have “dirtied up” my relationships. No need to convince anyone, I’ll just send them to your post.
Many thanks,
Robert

]]> By: Robert Shackleton http://askcharlyleetham.com/services/email-marketing-when-do-you-agree-to-join-a-list/login/comment-page-1#comment-6352 Robert Shackleton Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:48:00 +0000 http://askcharlyleetham.com/blog/?p=637#comment-6352 Hey charly, A masterful clarification. I was pointing out to someone recently the danger in taking a cavlier attitude to including contacts in an email list. You have clarified the issue graphically. No permission means "no". I am so glad to know this before I ran out "with hobnail boots" into the privacy of others. In my exuberant ignorance I could easily have "dirtied up" my relationships. No need to convince anyone, I'll just send them to your post. Many thanks, Robert Hey charly,
A masterful clarification. I was pointing out to someone recently the danger in taking a cavlier attitude to including contacts in an email list. You have clarified the issue graphically. No permission means “no”. I am so glad to know this before I ran out “with hobnail boots” into the privacy of others. In my exuberant ignorance I could easily have “dirtied up” my relationships. No need to convince anyone, I’ll just send them to your post.
Many thanks,
Robert

]]> By: Charly Leetham http://askcharlyleetham.com/services/email-marketing-when-do-you-agree-to-join-a-list/login/comment-page-1#comment-2246 Charly Leetham Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:38:41 +0000 http://askcharlyleetham.com/blog/?p=637#comment-2246 Hi Connie, Yes, you're right - what is the proof that they agreed to join. I've provided two practical strategies on how you can achieve that in my next article: <a href="http://askcharlyleetham.com/blog/services/email-marketing/practical-strategies-email-marketing-networking" rel="nofollow">Practical Strategies: Email Marketing & Networking</a>. You can always write on the back of the business card you receive the date and that they agreed to join your mailing list. Charly. Hi Connie,

Yes, you’re right – what is the proof that they agreed to join. I’ve provided two practical strategies on how you can achieve that in my next article:
Practical Strategies: Email Marketing & Networking.

You can always write on the back of the business card you receive the date and that they agreed to join your mailing list.

Charly.

]]> By: Connie http://askcharlyleetham.com/services/email-marketing-when-do-you-agree-to-join-a-list/login/comment-page-1#comment-2239 Connie Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:51:56 +0000 http://askcharlyleetham.com/blog/?p=637#comment-2239 Hi Charly, this is a very interesting article. A question that has been at the back of my mind for a long time is the following: When somebody gives you their business card and you verbally ask whether they would like to be added to your update or email list etc. and they say "yes" and then you go ahead and do it - how would this stand up in court if they decided to complain? All you had was a verbal agreement, nothing in writing, no double opt-in? How are you going to prove that they agreed? It is a very frustrating area of networking because when I invite people to go to my site and subscribe about 95% won't do it - too busy, forget, not time etc. Any thoughts? .-= Connie´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.yogainahurry.com/725/indian-vegetarian-cooking/" rel="nofollow">Indian Vegetarian Cooking</a> =-. Hi Charly,
this is a very interesting article. A question that has been at the back of my mind for a long time is the following: When somebody gives you their business card and you verbally ask whether they would like to be added to your update or email list etc. and they say “yes” and then you go ahead and do it – how would this stand up in court if they decided to complain?
All you had was a verbal agreement, nothing in writing, no double opt-in? How are you going to prove that they agreed?
It is a very frustrating area of networking because when I invite people to go to my site and subscribe about 95% won’t do it – too busy, forget, not time etc.
Any thoughts?
.-= Connie´s last blog ..Indian Vegetarian Cooking =-.

]]> By: Connie http://askcharlyleetham.com/services/email-marketing-when-do-you-agree-to-join-a-list/login/comment-page-1#comment-6351 Connie Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:51:00 +0000 http://askcharlyleetham.com/blog/?p=637#comment-6351 Hi Charly, this is a very interesting article. A question that has been at the back of my mind for a long time is the following: When somebody gives you their business card and you verbally ask whether they would like to be added to your update or email list etc. and they say "yes" and then you go ahead and do it - how would this stand up in court if they decided to complain? All you had was a verbal agreement, nothing in writing, no double opt-in? How are you going to prove that they agreed? It is a very frustrating area of networking because when I invite people to go to my site and subscribe about 95% won't do it - too busy, forget, not time etc. Any thoughts? .-= Connie´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.yogainahurry.com/725/indian-vegetarian-cooking/">Indian Vegetarian Cooking</a> =-. Hi Charly,
this is a very interesting article. A question that has been at the back of my mind for a long time is the following: When somebody gives you their business card and you verbally ask whether they would like to be added to your update or email list etc. and they say “yes” and then you go ahead and do it – how would this stand up in court if they decided to complain?
All you had was a verbal agreement, nothing in writing, no double opt-in? How are you going to prove that they agreed?
It is a very frustrating area of networking because when I invite people to go to my site and subscribe about 95% won’t do it – too busy, forget, not time etc.
Any thoughts?
.-= Connie´s last blog ..Indian Vegetarian Cooking =-.

]]> By: Practical Strategies: Email Marketing & Networking | Ask Charly Leetham http://askcharlyleetham.com/services/email-marketing-when-do-you-agree-to-join-a-list/login/comment-page-1#comment-2221 Practical Strategies: Email Marketing & Networking | Ask Charly Leetham Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:16:23 +0000 http://askcharlyleetham.com/blog/?p=637#comment-2221 [...] on from my discussion the other day, When Do You Agree To Join A Marketing List, and the excellent comment by Justin Premick from Aweber, I thought I would discuss some practical [...] [...] on from my discussion the other day, When Do You Agree To Join A Marketing List, and the excellent comment by Justin Premick from Aweber, I thought I would discuss some practical [...]

]]> By: Charly Leetham http://askcharlyleetham.com/services/email-marketing-when-do-you-agree-to-join-a-list/login/comment-page-1#comment-2201 Charly Leetham Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:17:10 +0000 http://askcharlyleetham.com/blog/?p=637#comment-2201 Hi Justin, Thanks for stopping by and adding to the discussion. The blog post you link to is incredibly helpful - and it should be used by everyone when considering how to / if to add a contact to their list. I'll be publishing another article in a day or to that provides some practical ways that you can move a contact to a subscriber - and will add more articles in the future about how you can communicate with your community in a meaningful way over time. Hi Justin,

Thanks for stopping by and adding to the discussion. The blog post you link to is incredibly helpful – and it should be used by everyone when considering how to / if to add a contact to their list.

I’ll be publishing another article in a day or to that provides some practical ways that you can move a contact to a subscriber – and will add more articles in the future about how you can communicate with your community in a meaningful way over time.

]]> By: Justin Premick, AWeber http://askcharlyleetham.com/services/email-marketing-when-do-you-agree-to-join-a-list/login/comment-page-1#comment-2197 Justin Premick, AWeber Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:04:21 +0000 http://askcharlyleetham.com/blog/?p=637#comment-2197 Hi Charly, You're right on - connecting with someone on LinkedIn is not at all the same as opting into their list. You simply can't assume permission, because, well... "we all know what happens when we assume..." It's like exchanging business cards - you don't just add people to your list because you got their business card. You ASK them when you get the card if they'd be interested in receiving your emails, and IF they say yes, then (and only then) do you add them. Permission is something I've talked about a number of times on the AWeber blog and in our other educational materials. I hadn't accounted for LinkedIn specifically in our "Can I Use This List?" scenarios (linked via my name above), but you can bet I'll be going back and adding this now. Oh, and if you find that someone does this to you and is using AWeber, you're more than welcome to contact me directly about it. Adding people to a list without their consent runs contrary to what we're all about at AWeber, and I'd appreciate the opportunity to educate someone and steer them in the right direction. Thanks for a useful commentary on relationship marketing. Hi Charly,

You’re right on – connecting with someone on LinkedIn is not at all the same as opting into their list. You simply can’t assume permission, because, well… “we all know what happens when we assume…”

It’s like exchanging business cards – you don’t just add people to your list because you got their business card. You ASK them when you get the card if they’d be interested in receiving your emails, and IF they say yes, then (and only then) do you add them.

Permission is something I’ve talked about a number of times on the AWeber blog and in our other educational materials. I hadn’t accounted for LinkedIn specifically in our “Can I Use This List?” scenarios (linked via my name above), but you can bet I’ll be going back and adding this now.

Oh, and if you find that someone does this to you and is using AWeber, you’re more than welcome to contact me directly about it. Adding people to a list without their consent runs contrary to what we’re all about at AWeber, and I’d appreciate the opportunity to educate someone and steer them in the right direction.

Thanks for a useful commentary on relationship marketing.

]]> By: Justin Premick, AWeber http://askcharlyleetham.com/services/email-marketing-when-do-you-agree-to-join-a-list/login/comment-page-1#comment-6350 Justin Premick, AWeber Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:04:00 +0000 http://askcharlyleetham.com/blog/?p=637#comment-6350 Hi Charly, You're right on - connecting with someone on LinkedIn is not at all the same as opting into their list. You simply can't assume permission, because, well... "we all know what happens when we assume..." It's like exchanging business cards - you don't just add people to your list because you got their business card. You ASK them when you get the card if they'd be interested in receiving your emails, and IF they say yes, then (and only then) do you add them. Permission is something I've talked about a number of times on the AWeber blog and in our other educational materials. I hadn't accounted for LinkedIn specifically in our "Can I Use This List?" scenarios (linked via my name above), but you can bet I'll be going back and adding this now. Oh, and if you find that someone does this to you and is using AWeber, you're more than welcome to contact me directly about it. Adding people to a list without their consent runs contrary to what we're all about at AWeber, and I'd appreciate the opportunity to educate someone and steer them in the right direction. Thanks for a useful commentary on relationship marketing. Hi Charly,

You’re right on – connecting with someone on LinkedIn is not at all the same as opting into their list. You simply can’t assume permission, because, well… “we all know what happens when we assume…”

It’s like exchanging business cards – you don’t just add people to your list because you got their business card. You ASK them when you get the card if they’d be interested in receiving your emails, and IF they say yes, then (and only then) do you add them.

Permission is something I’ve talked about a number of times on the AWeber blog and in our other educational materials. I hadn’t accounted for LinkedIn specifically in our “Can I Use This List?” scenarios (linked via my name above), but you can bet I’ll be going back and adding this now.

Oh, and if you find that someone does this to you and is using AWeber, you’re more than welcome to contact me directly about it. Adding people to a list without their consent runs contrary to what we’re all about at AWeber, and I’d appreciate the opportunity to educate someone and steer them in the right direction.

Thanks for a useful commentary on relationship marketing.

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